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		<title>By: ladytizzy</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/02/the-encounter/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>ladytizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu, write a letter to BT putting your points across and the illogicality of this sting, and cc it to Trading Standards http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/extra/contact.cfm?frmAlias=/contact/
that might resolve it to your satisfaction when they see the cc.

If that doesn&#039;t work write a letter to Lord Vallance, HoL, London SW1A 0PW (ex-BT Chair). I was totally ticked off with my connection being lost on a daily basis. Looking back at my notes I had 10 hours connection over a two week period. BT refused to acknowledge it was their fault and threatened all sorts of charges if they were proved right. Our provider had to prove that they had detected an &#039;unstable line&#039; before BT would even come out. They put a sticking plaster over the problem and essentially told us to live with it.

Er,no. Within a week of explaining very politely to Lord V how this affected my business, one well-placed phone call had a fleet of BT vans doing the job they should have done years agao. 

I am extremely grateful to him (and to http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/ )so please be nice!
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AJS, re: Sky - I feel your pain. Even I haven&#039;t managed to get anywhere with Sky&#039;s ways, especially their customer service. I did manage to get a good recipe for a curry while I waiting on the phone, however. I probably could have cooked it given the time taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Stu, write a letter to BT putting your points across and the illogicality of this sting, and cc it to Trading Standards <a href="http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/extra/contact.cfm?frmAlias=/contact/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/extra/contact.cfm?frmAlias=/contact/</a><br />
that might resolve it to your satisfaction when they see the cc.</p>

	<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work write a letter to Lord Vallance, HoL, London SW1A 0PW (ex-BT Chair). I was totally ticked off with my connection being lost on a daily basis. Looking back at my notes I had 10 hours connection over a two week period. BT refused to acknowledge it was their fault and threatened all sorts of charges if they were proved right. Our provider had to prove that they had detected an &#8216;unstable line&#8217; before BT would even come out. They put a sticking plaster over the problem and essentially told us to live with it.</p>

	<p>Er,no. Within a week of explaining very politely to Lord V how this affected my business, one well-placed phone call had a fleet of BT vans doing the job they should have done years agao. </p>

	<p>I am extremely grateful to him (and to <a href="http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/</a> )so please be nice!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>

	<p><span class="caps">AJS</span>, re: Sky &#8211; I feel your pain. Even I haven&#8217;t managed to get anywhere with Sky&#8217;s ways, especially their customer service. I did manage to get a good recipe for a curry while I waiting on the phone, however. I probably could have cooked it given the time taken.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/02/the-encounter/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It turns out BT are charging me a &#039;late payment charge&#039; for the bill that I wasn&#039;t supposed to receive (moved in October, bill is for the November period), then a &#039;disconnection charge&#039; for when Virgin finally _did_ cancel my BT account, and then the debt collectors they hired are slapping their own fee on the top.

Anyone know anything about the legality of disproportionate penalty charges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It turns out BT are charging me a &#8216;late payment charge&#8217; for the bill that I wasn&#8217;t supposed to receive (moved in October, bill is for the November period), then a &#8216;disconnection charge&#8217; for when Virgin finally <em>did</em> cancel my BT account, and then the debt collectors they hired are slapping their own fee on the top.</p>

	<p>Anyone know anything about the legality of disproportionate penalty charges?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AJS</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/02/the-encounter/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>AJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BT are bad, but Virgin Media are worse in my experience.

When I was with Virgin Media for the Internet, their DHCP servers used to go up and down more times than the lifts at Aston University.  It was kind of annoying to be told by an automated message, while I was ringing them to report a server problem, that I could report the fault over the Internet.  &lt;strong&gt;No I couldn&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt; -- you need an IP address for that, and you can&#039;t get an IP address from a broken DHCP server.

Anyway, I never ditched the BT line anyway; because having lived at that address for awhile, I didn&#039;t want the hassle of my number changing  (and they never even printed the cable phone number in the phone book anyway).  I just kept the cable line for inbound data calls, at least while I still had a dial-up modem.  I already switched my broadband to a provider who gave me a proper static IP address  (in VM&#039;s defence, they only changed it once about every six months, so it was just about feasible to use it for some services -- I didn&#039;t dare use it as an MX though).  And when the Branson/Murdoch dummy-spitting incident kicked off, I switched my telly to Sky Plus.

Now if I could just work out how to get my Sky Plus box to show the time VCR-stylee  (AM/PM irritates the tits off me),  it&#039;d be perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>BT are bad, but Virgin Media are worse in my experience.</p>

	<p>When I was with Virgin Media for the Internet, their <span class="caps">DHCP</span> servers used to go up and down more times than the lifts at Aston University.  It was kind of annoying to be told by an automated message, while I was ringing them to report a server problem, that I could report the fault over the Internet.  <strong>No I couldn&#8217;t</strong> &#8212; you need an IP address for that, and you can&#8217;t get an IP address from a broken <span class="caps">DHCP</span> server.</p>

	<p>Anyway, I never ditched the BT line anyway; because having lived at that address for awhile, I didn&#8217;t want the hassle of my number changing  (and they never even printed the cable phone number in the phone book anyway).  I just kept the cable line for inbound data calls, at least while I still had a dial-up modem.  I already switched my broadband to a provider who gave me a proper static IP address  (in VM&#8217;s defence, they only changed it once about every six months, so it was just about feasible to use it for some services &#8212; I didn&#8217;t dare use it as an MX though).  And when the Branson/Murdoch dummy-spitting incident kicked off, I switched my telly to Sky Plus.</p>

	<p>Now if I could just work out how to get my Sky Plus box to show the time VCR-stylee  (AM/PM irritates the tits off me),  it&#8217;d be perfect.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ladytizzy</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/02/the-encounter/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>ladytizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS Stu, very funny and brilliantly written!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>PS Stu, very funny and brilliantly written!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ladytizzy</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/02/the-encounter/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>ladytizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After years of telling the TV licencing collecting agency to stop pestering us with letters telling us we had no licence and THEY WERE WATCHING US (hmm, I thought the BBC were responsible for providing them with something to watch - oops, wrong post), I eventually lost it with them when: 

emailing them with our correct postal address, they told us that we, and by implication the Royal Mail, were wrong and their records didn&#039;t have such an address.

Fine by me, it&#039;s now on record (they never bothered to reply to our letters). It&#039;s a wonder how they keep the license so low...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>After years of telling the TV licencing collecting agency to stop pestering us with letters telling us we had no licence and <span class="caps">THEY</span> <span class="caps">WERE</span> <span class="caps">WATCHING</span> US (hmm, I thought the <span class="caps">BBC</span> were responsible for providing them with something to watch &#8211; oops, wrong post), I eventually lost it with them when: </p>

	<p>emailing them with our correct postal address, they told us that we, and by implication the Royal Mail, were wrong and their records didn&#8217;t have such an address.</p>

	<p>Fine by me, it&#8217;s now on record (they never bothered to reply to our letters). It&#8217;s a wonder how they keep the license so low&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Blue Eyes</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/02/the-encounter/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;how the hell can BT be trying to charge me £35 for one month on an £11pm tarriff in a month&lt;/I&gt;

There are no depths of incompetence which BT cannot plumb...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>how the hell can BT be trying to charge me £35 for one month on an £11pm tarriff in a month</i></p>

	<p>There are no depths of incompetence which BT cannot plumb&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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