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	<title>Comments on: Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan Dunleavy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Dunleavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking responsibility is the key. Unfortunately we have evolved to the point in western society where taking responsibility is the last thing we do. Bankers, Prime Ministers, Ministers of the Crown never take responsibility for their actions nowadays.
I am not in the UK at the moment and can see that this is not a Labour or even a UK problem. My post
http://1653now.blogspot.com/2009/07/parenting.html 
has some comments on the universality of these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Taking responsibility is the key. Unfortunately we have evolved to the point in western society where taking responsibility is the last thing we do. Bankers, Prime Ministers, Ministers of the Crown never take responsibility for their actions nowadays.<br />
I am not in the UK at the moment and can see that this is not a Labour or even a UK problem. My post<br />
<a href="http://1653now.blogspot.com/2009/07/parenting.html" rel="nofollow">http://1653now.blogspot.com/2009/07/parenting.html</a> <br />
has some comments on the universality of these issues.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: measured</title>
		<link>http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/2009/07/uk-is-violent-crime-capital-of-europe-telegraph/#comment-4502</link>
		<dc:creator>measured</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did think the 77% strange, given all the legislation and the fact Labour have been quite right-wing at eroding the rights of Defendants (terrorism laws, introducing bad character etc.). I do think the law is sometimes complicated for the sake of being complicated, as nothing seems to get simplified and that can&#039;t be right except for lawyers. 

Criminologists say you have to give the criminals a break at the right time to let them get their lives sorted, often when they have just become parents or got married. On this occasion Labour is acquitted and I give them a break. Let&#039;s hope they don&#039;t reoffend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I did think the 77% strange, given all the legislation and the fact Labour have been quite right-wing at eroding the rights of Defendants (terrorism laws, introducing bad character etc.). I do think the law is sometimes complicated for the sake of being complicated, as nothing seems to get simplified and that can&#8217;t be right except for lawyers. </p>

	<p>Criminologists say you have to give the criminals a break at the right time to let them get their lives sorted, often when they have just become parents or got married. On this occasion Labour is acquitted and I give them a break. Let&#8217;s hope they don&#8217;t reoffend.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: patently</title>
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		<dc:creator>patently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logically speaking, if the Tories can&#039;t do any better than Labour, and Labour are (evidently) doing worse than the Tories were, then we are, in a nutshell, utterly screwed. I tend to take a more optimistic view.

I do think that Labour&#039;s approach has made this worse, but I don&#039;t think that it is their criminal justice policy that is principally to blame - more the general &quot;I am not responsible for my life&quot; mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Logically speaking, if the Tories can&#8217;t do any better than Labour, and Labour are (evidently) doing worse than the Tories were, then we are, in a nutshell, utterly screwed. I tend to take a more optimistic view.</p>

	<p>I do think that Labour&#8217;s approach has made this worse, but I don&#8217;t think that it is their criminal justice policy that is principally to blame &#8211; more the general &#8220;I am not responsible for my life&#8221; mentality.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: asquith</title>
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		<dc:creator>asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://5cc.blogspot.com/2009/07/most-violent-country-in-europe.html</description>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife teaches &quot;SEBD&quot; kids, at a school (which won&#039;t be named for obvious reasons) which is often the last resort before exceptional measures are taken against kids with behavioural problems.

The biggest underlying thing she sees is kids who have absolutely zero self-worth, and as a result, place no value upon anything else, either. More often than not (I say that, because it&#039;s not exclusively true), the parents have a huge part to play; many of them feel exactly the same way about themselves. These are the sorts of kids who get hauled up in front of children’s panels (if they&#039;re lucky) or YOIs (if they&#039;re not); getting sent down is usually the worst thing that can happen, as there&#039;s rarely any going back from there.

As it goes, she does a bloody good job, and most of the challenges—as you might expect—are directly related to the key decision-makers within the system, rather than the kids themselves. On the plus side, much of what they do at that school is getting (very) gradually rolled out into mainstream education, because it&#039;s not something beneficial solely to “delinquents” and “hooligans in hoodies” and the like… but, it&#039;s a very very slow process, often blocked by people who can&#039;t see the difference between handy-wavy blue-sky &quot;thinking&quot; (using the term loosely) and measures that are actually beneficial.

Mind you, as measured points out, it doesn&#039;t help that the number of offences *created* by Labour since they came into power is… dizzying, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My wife teaches &#8220;SEBD&#8221; kids, at a school (which won&#8217;t be named for obvious reasons) which is often the last resort before exceptional measures are taken against kids with behavioural problems.</p>

	<p>The biggest underlying thing she sees is kids who have absolutely zero self-worth, and as a result, place no value upon anything else, either. More often than not (I say that, because it&#8217;s not exclusively true), the parents have a huge part to play; many of them feel exactly the same way about themselves. These are the sorts of kids who get hauled up in front of children’s panels (if they&#8217;re lucky) or YOIs (if they&#8217;re not); getting sent down is usually the worst thing that can happen, as there&#8217;s rarely any going back from there.</p>

	<p>As it goes, she does a bloody good job, and most of the challenges—as you might expect—are directly related to the key decision-makers within the system, rather than the kids themselves. On the plus side, much of what they do at that school is getting (very) gradually rolled out into mainstream education, because it&#8217;s not something beneficial solely to “delinquents” and “hooligans in hoodies” and the like… but, it&#8217;s a very very slow process, often blocked by people who can&#8217;t see the difference between handy-wavy blue-sky &#8220;thinking&#8221; (using the term loosely) and measures that are actually beneficial.</p>

	<p>Mind you, as measured points out, it doesn&#8217;t help that the number of offences <strong>created</strong> by Labour since they came into power is… dizzying, to say the least.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: measured</title>
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		<dc:creator>measured</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour since it came into power since May 1997 has introduced the following Acts of Parliament regarding crime:

Crime and Disorder Act 1998 c.37

Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) (Amendment) Act 1998 c.27 (included here for the sake of completion)

Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act 1998 c.40

Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Act 1999 c.25

Criminal Justice and Courts Services Act 2000 c.43

Crown Prosecution Service Inspectorate Act 2000 c.10

Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 c.16

Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 c.29 

Crime (International Co-operation) Act 2003 c.32

Criminal Justice Act 2003 c.44 (The most important one)

Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 c.15

Criminal Defence Service Act 2006 c.9

Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 c.38 (WHAT A JOKE!) 

Serious Crime Act 2007 c.27

Counter-Terrorism Act 2008 c.28

Criminal Evidence (Witness Anonymity) Act 2008 c.15

Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 c.4 

I may have missed some. I won&#039;t even go near listing the SI&#039;s that are just waved through in case you switch off, Stu. 

Just unbelievable. Labour will no doubt highlight that they are catching more criminals or that the statistics are misleading.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Labour since it came into power since May 1997 has introduced the following Acts of Parliament regarding crime:</p>

	<p>Crime and Disorder Act 1998 c.37</p>

	<p>Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) (Amendment) Act 1998 c.27 (included here for the sake of completion)</p>

	<p>Criminal Justice (Terrorism and Conspiracy) Act 1998 c.40</p>

	<p>Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Act 1999 c.25</p>

	<p>Criminal Justice and Courts Services Act 2000 c.43</p>

	<p>Crown Prosecution Service Inspectorate Act 2000 c.10</p>

	<p>Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 c.16</p>

	<p>Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 c.29 </p>

	<p>Crime (International Co-operation) Act 2003 c.32</p>

	<p>Criminal Justice Act 2003 c.44 (The most important one)</p>

	<p>Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 c.15</p>

	<p>Criminal Defence Service Act 2006 c.9</p>

	<p>Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 c.38 (<span class="caps">WHAT</span> A JOKE!) </p>

	<p>Serious Crime Act 2007 c.27</p>

	<p>Counter-Terrorism Act 2008 c.28</p>

	<p>Criminal Evidence (Witness Anonymity) Act 2008 c.15</p>

	<p>Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 c.4 </p>

	<p>I may have missed some. I won&#8217;t even go near listing the SI&#8217;s that are just waved through in case you switch off, Stu. </p>

	<p>Just unbelievable. Labour will no doubt highlight that they are catching more criminals or that the statistics are misleading&#8230;..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too true. Personally, though, I know I&#039;d go ahead and say prisons ought to be exceptionally unpleasant places, and unfortunately I&#039;m assured by qualified criminal psychologists that this actually has the opposite of the desired effect on the prisoners minds.

I think the concept of personal responsibility is the one which holds the key to all of this. People find it too easy to blame others for their own actions _(&#039;how am I supposed to know better I&#039;m [poor&#124;from a broken home&#124;dyslexic&#124;from Glasgow]&#039; ;-) )_ With greater emphasis on the idea that you personally hold the ultimate responsibility for your own actions, a lot of re-offences could be avoided.

Rehabilitation is the key, you&#039;re right, but the new &#039;causes of crime&#039; seem to be a lot of people who don&#039;t feel like they have any responsibility for their own actions, and don&#039;t have any fear of the consequences.

Or so it seems to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Too true. Personally, though, I know I&#8217;d go ahead and say prisons ought to be exceptionally unpleasant places, and unfortunately I&#8217;m assured by qualified criminal psychologists that this actually has the opposite of the desired effect on the prisoners minds.</p>

	<p>I think the concept of personal responsibility is the one which holds the key to all of this. People find it too easy to blame others for their own actions <em>(&#8216;how am I supposed to know better I&#8217;m [poor|from a broken home|dyslexic|from Glasgow]&#8217; <img src='http://archive.sharpesopinion.co.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</em> With greater emphasis on the idea that you personally hold the ultimate responsibility for your own actions, a lot of re-offences could be avoided.</p>

	<p>Rehabilitation is the key, you&#8217;re right, but the new &#8216;causes of crime&#8217; seem to be a lot of people who don&#8217;t feel like they have any responsibility for their own actions, and don&#8217;t have any fear of the consequences.</p>

	<p>Or so it seems to me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the Tories aren&#039;t likely to fare much better if they return to power.

Reoffending rates are the key statistic, and they&#039;re absolutely shocking in this country, especially for those given any sort of custodial sentence as a teenager (which happens rather a lot around my parts).

Sadly, no politician has ever done famously well by saying “here, hold on a second, rather than just locking up people for as long as we can until all the prisons are full and we have to either run an early release programme or just not lock up people who pose a danger to others, shouldn&#039;t we focus efforts on the &quot;rehabilitation&quot; part of what the justice system’s supposed to provide?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Of course, the Tories aren&#8217;t likely to fare much better if they return to power.</p>

	<p>Reoffending rates are the key statistic, and they&#8217;re absolutely shocking in this country, especially for those given any sort of custodial sentence as a teenager (which happens rather a lot around my parts).</p>

	<p>Sadly, no politician has ever done famously well by saying “here, hold on a second, rather than just locking up people for as long as we can until all the prisons are full and we have to either run an early release programme or just not lock up people who pose a danger to others, shouldn&#8217;t we focus efforts on the &#8220;rehabilitation&#8221; part of what the justice system’s supposed to provide?”</p>]]></content:encoded>
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